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Amos v Walter[2021] QCATA 105

QUEENSLAND CIVIL AND ADMINISTRATIVE TRIBUNAL

CITATION:

Amos v Walter [2021] QCATA 105

PARTIES:

EDWARD AMOS

(applicant)

v

glenn walter

(respondent)

APPLICATION NO:

APL323-20

MATTER TYPE:

Other civil dispute matters

DELIVERED ON:

23 August 2021

HEARING DATE:

On the papers

HEARD AT:

Brisbane

DECISION OF:

Dr J R Forbes

ORDERS:

The application for leave to appeal is dismissed.

CATCHWORDS:

APPEAL – APPLICATION FOR LEAVE TO APPEAL – Small Claims Act 1973 (repealed) – where action between consumer and alleged trader – where transactions between solicitor and costs assessor – whether claim a liquidated claim – whether  costs assessor a trader within meaning of legislation cited – whether costs assessment excepted from category of trade as an occupation not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce – where costs assessor not engaged in trade

Civil Proceedings Act 2011 (Qld) s 77

Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld) s 32, s 271, 3rd Schedule

Small Claims Tribunal Act 1973 (Qld) (repealed) s 4(1), s 4(2)

Uniform Civil Procedure Rules 1999 (Qld) rr 678-743S

Alexander v Ajax Insurance Co Ltd [1956] VLR 436

Amos v Walter [2020] QCAT 360

Aquilar v Egnalig [2014] QCATA 219

Balabel v Air India [1988] Ch 317

Bond Corporation Pty Ltd v Thiess Contractors Pty Ltd (1987) 14 FCR 215

Bradfield v Federal Commissioner of Taxation (1924) 34 CLR 1

Carr v Inland Revenue Commissioners [1944] 2 All ER 163

Dalgety Futures Pty Ltd & Anor [1980] 2 NSWLR 646

Edward Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd [2006] QDC 485

Gall & Anor v Lakatoi Pty Ltd (t/a Maritime Solutions Most Thing Nautical [2014] QCAT 557

Grommen v Hawes [2018] QCATA 49

Minister for Immigration and Citizenship v SZMDS & Another (2010) 240 CLR 611

Public Transport Ticketing Corporation v Integrated Transit Solutions Ltd [2011] NSWSC 453

Rowley v Abacus Associates Pty Ltd & Anor [2017] QCAT 36

Secretary of State for Education and Science v Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council [1977] AC 1014

Spain v Union Steamship Co of New Zealand Ltd (1923) 32 CLR 138

Szintseva v Berowra Mansions Periodontal Specialist Centre [2014] QCATA 249

W (an infant), In Re [1971] AC 682

APPEARANCES &

REPRESENTATION:

This matter was heard and determined on the papers pursuant to s 32 of the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2009 (Qld)

REASONS FOR DECISION

Background

  1. [1]
    As long ago as May 2009 the applicant solicitor (`Amos’) complained to the former Small Claims Tribunal[1] that the respondent (`Walter’) had grossly overcharged him for services as a legal costs assessor.
  2. [2]
    While Walter delivered bills for a total of $3,650. Amos, equipped with affidavits of three other solicitors, claimed a refund of $2,462.50.
  3. [3]
    This was not Amos’ first clash of arms with cost assessors. The Adjudicator succinctly describes a chequered history that need not now be retraced.[2]
  4. [4]
    On 9 July 2009[3] the SCT dismissed the subject claim for want of jurisdiction. However, a few weeks later a rehearing was granted.[4]

The primary decision

  1. [5]
    In December 2009 the matter formally joined the list of cases for trial in the new QCAT tribunal.[5]  There it lay dormant for years. Finally, in September 2020, it was closely examined by the learned Adjudicator, who dismissed it on two jurisdictional grounds:
    1. (i)
      it is not a claim for a debt or liquidated money claim; and
    2. (ii)
      the respondent Walter is not a trader within the meaning of section 4(2) of the Small Claims Tribunal Act 1973.[6]

A liquidated claim?

  1. [6]
    I respectfully agree that the amount in dispute is not a liquidated claim.[7] As it stands, it is based on opinions of Amos’ expert witnesses. It is not crystallised in a judicial order, or in the form of an agreed price for services. Nor is it ascertainable by a simple mathematical calculation.[8] Until a judicial authority adopts, modifies or rejects the claim it is not liquidated. An action in which the amount to be recovered depends upon a judicial determination so that `no one can say positively beforehand whether the plaintiff will recover a farthing, or forty shillings or a hundred pounds’[9] is an unliquidated claim.[10]
  2. [7]
    I reject the submission that Amos’ present claim is liquidated.

A transaction with a `trader’?

  1. [8]
    The SCT had[11], and QCAT now has[12] jurisdiction, subject to monetary limits, to determine disputes between consumers and traders. Amos invokes that jurisdiction; Walter contends that it is unavailable because he (Walter) is not relevantly a trader.
  2. [9]
    In his defence Walter relies on the exception to the definition of `trader’ in section 4(2) of the SCT Act (reproduced in Schedule 3 of the QCAT Act.) In the Adjudicator’s words the application of that subsection is the `gravamen’ or the `pivotal issue’ in this case.[13]

The legislation

  1. [10]
    Materially section 4(1) of the SCT Act and  its modern equivalent provide[14]:

... trader means a person who in the field of trade or commerce carries on a business of supplying goods or providing services or who regularly holds himself or herself out as ready to supply goods or to provide services of a similar nature ...

  1. [11]
    However, section 4(2) excludes from that definition –

... a person who in respect of goods supplied or services provided by the person would be a trader, but for this subsection, shall not be a trader in respect of those goods or services if in supplying those goods or providing those services — (a) the person acts in the exercise of a discipline that is not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce.[15]

 An open category

  1. [12]
    However, the legislation offers no list – exhaustive or non-exhaustive – of occupations that are `not ordinarily regarded as ... trade or commerce’.
  2. [13]
    The Act speaks not of `professions’ but of `disciplines’. Possibly the descriptor `discipline’ was chosen in order to sidestep status-conscious demarcation disputes.[16] And perhaps, too, the draftsman felt that it would be invidious to distinguish the non-trader sheep from the tribe of traders, and so discreetly left that function to the courts. So far, it seems, the discipline/trade dichotomy has escaped hypersensitive disapproval of `elitism’.
  3. [14]
    The position, then, is that identification of non-trader disciplines is matter of ordinary language, common experience, comparative cases and contemporary social circumstances.
  4. [15]
    Conceivably there are `disciplines’ that are not `professions,’ but that question need not be pursued here. The concept of a profession, in the sense of a collective possessing and offering special knowledge or experience, is not a closed category. As an English judge observed almost 70 years ago: `There are professions today which nobody would have considered to be professions in times past.’[17] Earlier still, a member of the High Court declared:

[Profession] is an expression which I agree is not capable of exact definition ... that depends] on the general understanding of the community. The word ... is not one which is rigid or static ... it is undoubtedly progressive with the general progress of the community.[18]

  1. [16]
    With respect, the Adjudicator’s distinction between lawyers and legal cost assessors may be unduly sharp.[19] An assessor’s application of the law of costs, the rules of court and appreciation of legal realities may well overlap the work of lawyers. After all, `legal advice is not confined to telling the client the law; it may include advice as to what should prudently and sensibly be done in the relevant legal context’[20] – such as the implementation or elaboration of judicial orders for costs.
  2. [17]
    Be that as it may, the decision emphasises that cost assessment requires `special expertise’[21] and `a high level of knowledge or skill’.[22] It notes that only qualified lawyers may practise the discipline, and that assessors are comprehensively regulated in the code of forensic practice known as the Uniform Civil Procedure Rules.[23] Furthermore, assessors, in the course of their duties, enjoy the protections and immunities of Supreme Court judges.[24]
  3. [18]
    The decision helpfully reveals a wide-ranging miscellany of occupations that have been treated as `disciplines’ for the purposes of section 4(2) of the SCT Act (and its QCAT Act equivalent), including accountants,[25] marine surveyors,[26] migration agents[27] and periodontists.[28] If real estate agents are to be included[29] in this list it would be a courageous decision to exclude legally qualified persons acting as cost assessors.

Conclusion

  1. [19]
    In the light of the authorities and examples above, it was well within the Adjudicator’s discretion to hold that costs assessors are not traders, but rather practitioners of a discipline not ordinarily regarded as being within the field of trade or commerce. Where reasonable minds may differ, a decision cannot properly be called erroneous, simply because one conclusion has been preferred to another possible view.[30] I respectfully agree that the submission that cost assessors are `traders’ for present purposes should be rejected.
  2. [20]
    It follows that the issue of jurisdiction has correctly been resolved.
  3. [21]
    Accordingly the application for leave to appeal must be dismissed.

ORDER

The application for leave to appeal is dismissed.

Footnotes

[1]Established by the Small Claims Tribunal Act 1973 (Qld) (repealed) (`the SCT’) and subsequently merged in QCAT.

[2]A curious reader may refer to Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd [2007] QCA 235, Edward Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd [2006] QDC 485 and Amos v Walter [2020] QCAT 360 at [15] – [22].

[3]The SCT was merged in QCAT on 1 December 2009.

[4]Letter SCT to Amos 29 July 2009.

[5]In fact the SCT file was mislaid in Magistrates Court records, and did not reach QCAT until 12 May 2020: Primary decision (`PD’) [45].

[6]Amos v Walter [2020] QCAT 360 at [124].

[7]See PD [120].

[8]Spain v Union Steamship Co of New Zealand Ltd (1923) 32 CLR 138 at 142 per Knox CJ and Starke J; Dalgety Futures Pty Ltd & Anor [1980] 2 NSWLR 646 at [11].

[9]Dalgety Futures Pty Ltd & Anor [1980] 2 NSWLR 646 at [12], quoting with approval Odgers Pleading and Practice 5th ed, p 41; Alexander v Ajax Insurance Co Ltd [1956] VLR 436.

[10]This point is encapsulated in PD [120].

[11]Definition of `small claim’ SCT s 4(1).

[12]QCAT Act s 271(3)(b).

[13]PD [70] and [93]-[94].

[14]See now QCAT Act Schedule 3, definition of `trader’.

[15]Emphasis added.

[16]Cf the comment of French J in Bond Corporation Pty Ltd v Thiess Contractors Pty Ltd (1987) 14 FCR 215 at 219, referring to T J Johnson Professions and Power (1972) at page 22.

[17]Carr v Inland Revenue Commissioners [1944] 2 All ER 163 at 167 per du Parcq LJ.

[18]Bradfield v Federal Commissioner of Taxation (1924) 34 CLR 1 at 7 per Isaacs J, cited in Bond Corporation Pty Ltd v Thiess Contractors Pty Ltd (1987) 14 FCR 215 at 219.

[19]PD [[65(l) and (m)]. The distinction is counterbalanced by several fulsome tributes to the unique skills of cost assessors.

[20]Balabel v Air India [1988] Ch 317 at 330; Public Transport Ticketing Corporation v Integrated Transit Solutions Ltd [2011] NSWSC 453 at [26]

[21]PD [104].

[22]PD [105].

[23]PD and [104], [111]; UCPR rr 678-743S.

[24]Civil Proceedings Act 2011 (Qld) s 77.

[25]Rowley v Abacus Associates Pty Ltd & Anor [2017] QCAT 36.

[26]Gall & Anor v Lakatoi Pty Ltd (t/a Maritime Solutions Most Thing Nautical [2014] QCAT 557.

[27]Aquilar v Egnalig [2014] QCATA 219.

[28]Szintseva v Berowra Mansions Periodontal Specialist Centre [2014] QCATA 249.

[29]As they were in Grommen v Hawes [2018] QCATA 49 at [10].

[30] Minister for Immigration and Citizenship v SZMDS & Another (2010) 240 CLR 611 at [131]; In Re W (an infant) [1971] AC 682 at 700 per Lord Hailsham; Secretary of State for Education and Science v Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council [1977] AC 1014 at 1025. 

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Editorial Notes

  • Published Case Name:

    Amos v Walter

  • Shortened Case Name:

    Amos v Walter

  • MNC:

    [2021] QCATA 105

  • Court:

    QCATA

  • Judge(s):

    Dr J R Forbes

  • Date:

    23 Aug 2021

Appeal Status

Please note, appeal data is presently unavailable for this judgment. This judgment may have been the subject of an appeal.

Cases Cited

Case NameFull CitationFrequency
Aguilar v Egnalig [2014] QCATA 219
2 citations
Alexander v Ajax Insurance Co. Ltd. (1956) VLR 436
2 citations
Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty Ltd[2008] 1 Qd R 304; [2007] QCA 235
1 citation
Amos v Monsour Legal Costs Pty. Ltd. [2006] QDC 485
1 citation
Amos v Walter [2020] QCAT 360
3 citations
Balabel v Air India [1988] Ch 317
2 citations
Bond Corporation Pty Ltd v Thiess Contractors Pty Ltd (1987) 14 FCR 215
3 citations
Bradfield v Federal Taxation Commissioner (1924) 34 CLR 1
2 citations
Carr v Inland Revenue Commissioners [1944] 2 All E.R. 163
2 citations
Dalgety Futures Pty Ltd v Poretsky [1980] 2 NSWLR 646
3 citations
Gall & Anor v Lakatoi Pty Ltd t/as Maritime Solutions Most Things Nautical [2014] QCAT 557
2 citations
Grommen v Hawes [2018] QCATA 49
2 citations
In re W. (An Infant) (1971) AC 682
2 citations
Minister for Immigration and Citizenship v SZMDS (2010) 240 CLR 611
2 citations
Public Transport Ticketing Corporation v Integrated Transit Solutions Ltd [2011] NSWSC 453
2 citations
Rowley v Abacus Associates Pty Ltd [2017] QCAT 36
2 citations
Sizintseva v Benowa Mansions Periodontal Specialist Centre [2014] QCATA 249
2 citations
Spain v Union Steamship Co. of New Zealand Ltd. (1923) 32 CLR 138
2 citations
State for Education & Science v Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council (1977) AC 1014
2 citations

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